Honest, curious conversations about true faith and the human experience, even in the dark
You Don't Need to Be Fixed.
You Need to Be Known.
We believe that true transformation happens through union with God, with others, and with ourselves. Not through quick fixes or easy answers. In this podcast, we explore what union looks like in our relationships with God, with others, and with ourselves. We explore what this looks like in church, career, marriage, and family.
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Tune in if you're interested in entering the conversations at the Pub in the Desert!
Our Three Guiding Principles
Knowing,
Not Fixing
You don't need to be fixed. You need to be known.
We believe that love is the foundation of all meaningful connection. We define love as knowing and being known - a dance of curiosity and self-disclosure.
Curiosity,
Not Debate
Our conversations are spaces for genuine curiosity, not winning debates. They are spaces for exploration, not confrontation.
Through curious conversations, we create room for the kind of union that emerges when we truly seek to understand rather than simply to be right.
Authenticity,
Not Agendas
We don't come with preset agendas or predetermined conclusions.
Instead, we let conversations unfold naturally, following where authenticity leads us.
This open approach creates space for genuine union to emerge, allowing for real discovery and connection.
Meet Your Hosts
Kevin David Kridner
Kevin David Kridner is a spiritual director and Christian writer. His raw, poetic essays explore faith through the lens of the ache, deep spiritual longing, and union with God. His modern psalm-like work resonates with those who love God yet struggle, offering no easy answers but creating space for honest faith. Kridner's writing emerges from his own dark nights of his soul, from walking alongside others in their darkest hours, and from learning to find the sacred in staying alive.
Matthias Miller
Matthias bridges worlds that believe they're separate. Through his work with Frictionless Teams, he has shown how analytical minds and creative souls, business success and spiritual depth, efficiency and humanity all belong together. His obsession with understanding what makes people tick comes from a deeper belief: that union happens when we stop trying to fix our contradictions and start embracing them. Whether advising businesses or creating spaces for honest conversation, Matthias helps people discover that their competing parts don't need to fight—they need to dance.